Whole & Holy: The Bethel Seminary Podcast
Confronting Racism

Confronting Racism

June 11, 2020

This episode features a conversation with David A. French about racism in the US and how Christians might think about responding.  David is a columnist and senior editor of The Dispatch, who also writes for Time magazine and formerly was a staff writer for National Review.  He graduated from Harvard Law School and is an attorney who has worked extensively on religious liberty issues.  He served as an Army officer in the Iraq war.  He and his wife, Nancy, live in Tennessee with their three children.

Works mentioned in this episode:

"American Racism: We've Got So Very Far to Go"


Follow David on Twitter @DavidAFrench

Making Sense of COVID-19

Making Sense of COVID-19

June 8, 2020

This episode features a conversation with pastor/theologian Dr. Joel Lawrence who shares thoughts on how we can make sense of COVID-19 from a theological perspective.


Resources mentioned in this episode:

Henri Blocher, Evil and the Cross: An Analytical Look at the Problem of Pain

N.T. Wright, Evil and the Justice of God

Center for Pastor Theologians

Mission Over Method: Connection in the Time of COVID-19

Mission Over Method: Connection in the Time of COVID-19

April 1, 2020

This episode features a conversation with Brooke Palmer, Online Campus Pastor at Journey's Crossing church in the greater metro Washington DC area.  We discuss how to foster digital/online connections in a time of social distancing.

Jay Kranda at Saddleback Church has lots of resources supporting online church.

Church Online Platform provides free platform for online church.

Carey Nieuwhof podcasts -- episodes focusing on digital connections

Journey's Crossing Church

Journey's Crossing YouTube channel with examples of kids/youth/adult content.

Contact Brooke: Brooke.Palmer@journeyscrossing.org


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Ministry Leadership in the Coronavirus Era

Ministry Leadership in the Coronavirus Era

March 23, 2020

This special episode features a conversation with Drs. David Clark, Professor of Theology, and Mark McCloskey, Professor of Ministry Leadership.  They discuss some important principles for leading in these challenging times.

Helpful resources:

Andy Crouch, "Love in the Time of Coronavirus," The Praxis Journal, March 12, 2020.

Mark McCloskey and Jim Louwsma, The Art of Virtue-Based Transformational Leadership

Mark McCloskeyLearning Leadership in a Changing World: Virtue and Effective Leadership in the 21st Century

Information on the practice of Examen, mentioned by Dr. McCloskey, is available here.

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Serving Special Families

Serving Special Families

February 14, 2020

Check out this exciting episode with Jodi Wolkerstorfer, focusing on how churches can support families with members with special needs.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


Mental Health and the Church: A Ministry Handbook for Including Children and Adults with ADHD, Anxiety, Mood Disorders, and Other Common Mental Health Conditions by Stephen Grcevich MD

Disability and the Way of Jesus: Holistic Healing in the Gospels and the Church by Bethany McKinney Fox



The Mixed Messages of Welcoming and Belonging - Feb 10, 2020

Ten disability ministry trends to watch in the 2020s - Jan 6, 2020

Being Included Without the Needed Supports is Simply Physical Proximity - Dec 16, 2019

AJB Recommends: Resources on Inclusion and Belonging - Oct 17, 2019

The Spectrum of Welcome: Moving from Exclusion to Tolerance to Inclusion to Belonging - Oct 2, 2019



Collaborative on Faith and Disabilities - Part of this is the Institute of Theology and Disabilities which is held in Holland, MI each spring. 

Key Ministry - Based in Ohio. Founded to help churches minister to families of children with "hidden” disabilities. Serves churches seeking to become more intentional and effective in ministry with children, teens and adults (and their families) impacted by mental illness, trauma and developmental disabilities. Website provides great resources for both churches and families.

Special Needs and Disabilities Ministry Leaders Forum - private Facebook group with close to 2,000 members nationwide. Provided by Key Ministry.

Joni and Friends - advancing disability ministry world wide - resources, conferences, retreats for families

MN One Body Conference - I’ll be speaking at this on April 4, 2020 on how churches can be “Set up for Success” for families of kids with disabilities. 

Autism Faith Network - started in 2016 by a mom who has two boys on the autism spectrum. Equipping faith-based communities to become more autism friendly.  Based in GA.

valuedbeyondmeasure@gmail.com - my email address that I use for all things faith and disability related, launching a website as well soon. Focused on connecting churches with resources, providing training to staff and volunteers, and continuing to walk with families to find ways to experience ministry within the local church. 


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Hello, Goodbye: Hiring and Terminations in Church Ministry

Hello, Goodbye: Hiring and Terminations in Church Ministry

December 11, 2019

This episode features a conversation with Cara Wald, Bethel University's Chief Human Resources and Strategy Officer.  We discuss important considerations in hiring and making terminations in church ministry, and how to approach these endeavors in a Christ-honoring way.

NOTE: In the episode, we refer to some documents that would be posted in the show notes.  We can post links but not documents here.  If you would like the documents mentioned, please email Cara Wald directly at c-wald@bethel.edu.  Thank you!


Christians and Politics: Faithfulness in the Public Square

Christians and Politics: Faithfulness in the Public Square

November 4, 2019

Special guest Justin Giboney is featured on this episode.  Justin is one of the co-founders of the AND Campaign.  The AND Campaign believes that politics is a limited, but essential forum for pursuing the well-being of our neighbors. It is limited in both its scope and its effectiveness. Politics can and should only reach so much and so far, and political solutions will never approach the perfect justice that Jesus will bring and is bringing. Our hope in all things is in Him. There is rarely one Christian position on a public policy issue, but every Christian should be thinking Christianly about politics. In the policies The AND Campaign promotes and in the positions we take, we believe social justice (&) moral order are not at odds, but are two sides of the same coin. We seek to act as faithful Christians, applying the timeless values of our faith and Christianity’s true account to the reality we all face, in this political moment. We invite all who affirm our approach to join us in our work to assert a compassionate and convictional witness into the public square.

Justin Giboney is an attorney and political strategist in Atlanta, GA. Mr. Giboney has managed successful campaigns for elected officials in the state and referendums relating to the city’s transportation and water infrastructure.

In 2012 and 2016, Georgia’s 5th congressional district elected him as a delegate for the Democratic National Convention and he served as the co-chair of Obama for America’s Gen44-Atlanta initiative. A former Vanderbilt University football player and law student, Justin served on the Urban League of Greater Atlanta Board of Directors. Additionally, Justin has participated in LEAD Atlanta, Outstanding Atlanta and the Georgia Bar Association’s Leadership Academy. He’s written op-eds for publications such as Christianity Today.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

The AND Campaign

Church Politics Podcast   The "Church Politics" Podcast is where you can get in-depth political analysis from a Christian worldview with Michael Wear & Justin Giboney

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Feeling the Pinch: Personal Finance and Pastoral Ministry

Feeling the Pinch: Personal Finance and Pastoral Ministry

October 16, 2019

This episode features a special guest, Leif Erickson, from Thrivent Financial Services.

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Resources mentioned on this episode:

Online Resources 
Leadership in Christian Perspective

Leadership in Christian Perspective

September 23, 2019

A conversation with Dr. Justin Irving, Professor of Ministry Leadership and Director of the Doctor of Ministry Program at Bethel Seminary, and Dr. Mark Strauss, University Professor of New Testament at Bethel Seminary, discussing their new book, Leadership in Christian Perspective: Biblical Foundations and Contemporary Practices for Servant Leaders.

Please provide feedback for the podcast or suggest ideas for future episodes at whole-and-holy@bethel.edu.


Falling Away

Falling Away

September 4, 2019

This episode features a conversation with Rev. Laurel Bunker about the recent announcement by evangelical leaders that they are leaving (or at least seriously reconsidering) their faith.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

Stephanie Williams O'Brien, Stay Curious: How Questions and Doubts Can Save Your Faith.  Pre-order at Amazon by clicking here.

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